Archive for January, 2019

January 2019 Cultural Notes

Editor’s Notes: Please also re-read December Cultural notes for some stool care techniques.

Special Cultural Notes:
Ron Elliot emphasized the necessity for protecting last year’s stools from frost–Keep stools protected, covered from rain, and sheltered from frost and Ice. One or two frosts in a row, the stools will probably survive; but a 3rd frost might likely kill many of the stools. Protecting from rain is necessary to keep your stools relative dry so they can experience a semi dormant period. If stools are wet you run much greater risk of killing frosts as new shoots will be growing and as such are much more susceptible to freezing weather. Also If the pots you have the stools in are wet a hard frost will often break your pots in half due to expansion of the wet media when it freezes.
The stools can be kept in this semi dormant period until 20-30 days before you wish to take cuttings. To wake them up feed moderately with a high nitrogen fertilizer such as Miracle Gro. to urge the new shoots on.
Ron also talked about cutting beds and the surrounding environment. He reported what he uses which are in a heated green house, keeping the soil temp. at 65-70 degrees etc. and using overhead fluorescent lights. Stark emphasized that the beginner and many older members don’t need to go to extensive lengths with the cutting beds and that all you really is a heated box with a medium of sand and Pete moss , protected from the surrounding medium and with sufficient light, whether it be from fluorescent lights, a sunny window or a semi clear roof.

And now back to your regularly scheduled program:
January 2017 Cultural Notes drs 1-16-2016
To Do LIST -January
1. get your stools growing and producing shoots for cuttings.
You should have several already producing good shoots for January cuttings
2. Clean up your cutting beds, check temperature sensors overhead lights etc.
See Dec. 2013 news letter for details.
3. Lay out your growing plans for the year- What verities and how many you plan
to grow. I like to break it down to 3 or four sections i.e.
-Large and Mediums (#1s & #2s)
-Incurves (#3s & #13s )
-Late Decoratives & Fantasies
-Early English and Garden Varieties and
-Any special categories you may be growing
4.Plan your pinch dates and starting dates
5. Start the cuttings per your plan; refer to previous notices or your he ECA
Novice Handbook
6 collect material you will need when transferring cuttings to next stage;
i.e. 21/2 inch cross bottom cubes– M&R mix, or other soilless growing mix
plant labels, B-9 stem growth retardant etc.
Cultural notes
1. Taking cuttings:
The club now follows either of two basic starting media/methods for starting the cuttings:
-the first method employs the old standard cutting bed where cuttings are placed in rows
in the starting media. separated as chosen by the grower. The basic cutting bed material
being peat moss and sand or our standard growing M&R mix. , or sometimes starting
directly in 2 1/2 inch cross bottom cubes. Recently, I (Stark) have changed my basic
starting media to 60% ProEarth#2 and 40 % Green Mountain sharp white sand. The sharp
white sand helps produce many more roots as the sharp edges penetrate the cambian layer
and new roots develop where the layer was broken.
The alternative cutting method employed by several uses “Earth Pots”. A few years ago
Chris Brookes picked up on this method used by Ray Gray of Kings Mums in his large scale
commercial business. The Earth pots come in trays of 72 starting modules containing the
required soilless ingredients. The cuttings are inserted directly into each module. A cutting
bed not required per se; but you still, but you still need to provide controlled under the pot
heat, overhead protection (Covers), overhead lighting and frequent overhead spraying.
The Earth pots come in trays of 72 pots. Mark Ross is the focal point for ordering the Earth
pots and you need to order them a month in advance.
Both methods have shown to produce excellent rooted cuttings, The Earth Pots are liked by
several grows because they allow a denser starting flat (72 starts per flat.
Downsides include additional costs and the need for frequent spraying.
The cutting bed seems to have an advantage with the white Sand enabling more roots per
cutting and the ability to get a good look at the roots when they are taken from the bed.
Of course the starting media or the under flat temperature must be controlled (65-69 DEG) by
heating heating elements such as heat pads, heat coils, heated room etc.

2. Starting dates:
There is always varying opinion for different starting dates. let’s try to put some logic into the Question. First we must recognize that different varieties require different starting dates to provide the best chance of getting a full flowered bloom read for our show date.
It has always been my position that for most of the year we must concentrate primarily on root development. In line with that position I generally recommend that we get our final potting, (8″ or 9″ pots) completed by the first to the fifteenth of June. This allows sufficient time to develop strong fully root bound roots by the time we expect the buds to appear. A basic tenant for pot grown plants is that the plants seldom bud out until they become root bound. if you are still potting-on into July you don’t have sufficient time to develop roots before you need buds o appear. The result is often late and anemic blooms. pushing them along with additional fertilizer can’t really save them. This concept is mostly independent of the planned stopping dates.
All that having been said there is still a lot of latitude in selecting your starting dates; including tardiness in getting your stools growing early enough to take healthy cuttings . You each will have to decide when to take your cuttings. To give you some Ideas I’ve listed my generalized starting dates. maybe they will be helpful, but keep in mind there are different growing facilities and climates so these might not all fit your needs. Hopefully it’s a start.
– Late Dec & early to mid January, Mount Rainer, Elsie Prosser James Bryant, Keith
Luxford, All Fairweathers, Most Fantasies (Spiders, quills and spoons). King George, plus
anything you plan to grow for specimen plants (10 or more blooms).
-Late Jan. Connie Mathew, Seychelles, Dukes, Jessie Habgood
– February, Lundys, Harry Gees (all), Jane Sharpe, Ralph Lamberts, Athabasca,
-Late Feb. to early march, Lots of #4s & #5s plus garden varieties.
To some extent, we as a club may have been starting many varieties earlier than necessary. Many of us have started fairly early because of usual April blahs where our plants tend to stall out and we barely get our plants into the final pots by early June. Many have overshot the desired potting-on dates resorted to using 8″ pots for the final potting in order to get the root system more quickly semi root bound. That works to some extent, but keep in mind that we are trying to attain exceptional flowers and the smaller pot with less roots significantly limits the potential of the final blooms
Most of the above relates to the Exhibition class mums; Sections 1 through 15.
-Early English classes , sections 23 through 25 and to some extent classes 13 through 15 are a different story entirely as they have been cultivated and developed mainly for growing in the open garden, not in pots. They tend to bud more quickly and flower earlier than the other varieties. Further, their budding dates are not usually affected by the need for roots to become semi root bound. Most garden varieties fall into this same category.
One final note regarding cuttings. We need healthy strong growing shoots for the cuttings in all cases. It is better to delay starts to get a healthier cuttings than to take earlier week cuttings. Another observation is that the shoots tend to be growing faster in February and on.
3. Use of B-Nine to control plant Height.
We have been recommending B-Nine to control the height of our plants. In general it is recommended the first application be made when potting on from the cutting bed. This works quite wee in most cases, but there several varieties that are generally quite short, and B-Nine is not beneficial as they could be so limited in height one could not produce a significantly long stem. To name a few here’s a list of those cultivars where B-Nine should not be used.
-All Fairweathers, -Alexis -West Bromwich King George -And all shorties.

Happy New Year January 2019 Newsletter

Hi All
Hoping everyone had a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year Celebration! Looking forward to seeing you this Thursday January 10th, 2019 and in the New Year! The meeting will be held at the Seattle Police Athletic Association small classroom to the north of the big hall. See our website under “about” for a map & updated directions. Turn left at the end of the driveway fences. Classroom is on the right just north of the house.

SUPPLIES: Please call Ronnie Elliot by Tuesday, January 8th to order M&R mix for both January and February meetings. We will have plant tags and twistems at the meeting.

Dues: Please pay your dues for 2019 at the January Meeting

DRAFT MINUTES from ECA Meeting December 13, 2018.

Approve October meeting minutes – No minutes to approve

Treasurer’s report $5,795.69

Old Business:

Review of 2018 Show –

Suggestions for next year 

See if we can get TV coverage of our event a t VPC

Inventory and Order show ribbons in February

Set up ribbon table prior to judging for easy ribbon access

Observations – Low participation in lower greenhouse 

how do we move people in that direction? – Talk to Dave Helgeson

Joyner’s have show table cloths to be dried and returned to VPC storage

Aldrich’s have spring plant sale paperwork bin

Plant sale plastic cups and pictures are at VPC storage

Joyner’s have the ECA banners to be cleaned up and returned to VPC storage

New Business:

  1. Mount Vernon ECA Presentation – Steve and Sue Joyner met with a Mount Vernon garden club interested in growing chrysanthemums.  There were about 6 to 8 ladies interested.  Steve Joyner to follow up.
  1. Trustees meeting – Scheduled for January 5th, 2019

Set 2019 calendar

Discuss North Satellite club

Review show rules/awards/program 

  1. Aldrich’s will inventory plant sale mailing addresses 
  1. Sue Joyner to ask Steve Backstrom if the ECA membership form can be added to our website 
  1. A nominating committee was formed to search for 2019 slate of officers

President –

Vice President

Secretary – Sue Joyner

Treasurer – Syndey Ogilvie

3 year trustees (2) Mark Ross & Erika Harris

A Trustees Meeting was held Saturday January 5th. Draft Minutes follow:


SATURDAY, JANUARY 5, 2019 10:00 am -12 pm



Attending:  Mark Ross, Jill Aldrich, Rich Aldrich, David Rynes, Ron Elliott, Bob Ewing, Steve Joyner, Sue Joyner

1) Reviewed and accepted 2019 Calendar Dates and times – see attachment

2) Reviewed and accepted Annual ECA membership dues for 2019 are $15 per person or $20 per couple

3) Reviewed and accepted 2019 Officer Trustee Appointees – 

3 year – Mark Ross and Erika Harris

2 Year – David Rynes and Christopher Brookes

1 Year – Jill Aldrich and Mas Tamekuni

4)  2019 Officer Elections will take place at our March meeting 

5)  Website Membership form discussion – we must be careful about publishing personal contact information on our website.  Currently our webmaster, Steve Backstrom, monitors the comments in the contact tab for new member inquiries and passes the information along to the membership committee.  

6)  Reviewed and confirmed Committee Definitions.  Committee volunteer sign up at January meeting

7)  Reviewed and Confirmed 2019 novice coaching assignments

  Alva Nishimura – Ron Elliott

Lizzie Whetstone – David Rynes

8)  Contact Sydney Ogilvie for the status of 503C Filing & Mailing Date due 5/1/2019 

9)  Steve Joyner will work with Mark Ross to create an updated ECA Yearbook 

10) Reviewed and accepted changes to first page of Novice handbook  

11) Decision to suspend a 2019 ECA Project Bloom was reviewed and accepted

12)  ECA Show rules were reviewed and several modifications were made.   

a) Remove 2 bloom entries from all cut bloom categories. 

b) Remove item B from the staging section which defines how 2 bloom entries should be staged as cut blooms for the show

c) Add 806 Bonsai class to section 32 Cascades, Trees and Charms (potted plants)

d) Award section changes:

    i) Add  – Best Vase of 3 Early English 

    ii) Add – Second Best Potted Plant, 5 blooms or less

    iii)  Rearrange Garden Variety challenges

          1) Garden Varieties challenge (Sec 6b, 7, & 8 – anemones, pompoms or singles)

          2) Fantasy Garden Varieties challenge (Section 10 – spiders, quill & spoons)

                       3) Remove second tier award for fantasy challenge – there are no other two tier award categories

13)   Reviewed and accepted show program format changes – see attachment

14)  Discussion of the need for a Credit Card Square – Magnetic Reader for the April plant sale.  Sue Joyner to research activation, deactivation, processing fees and liability insurance and report back to the club

15)  Missing Trophies – Ron Elliott will look for these trophies

a) Best Bloom non-member     

b) Most points in show  

c) Best vase of 3 exhibition in-curves 

16)  New trophies – the Garden Varieties award categories were changed.  The fantasy challenge award will go to the Fantasy Garden Varieties challenge (Section 10 – spiders, quill & spoons).  A new trophy will be purchased and awarded in the Garden Varieties challenge (Sec 6b, 7, & 8 – anemones, pompoms or singles)

16)   Some of the ECA trophies are looking shabby.  Ron Elliot volunteered to research options for getting them refaced or replaced

17) Discussion about reorganizing the cultural presentations at each meeting.  It was suggested that our skilled growers share their specialty knowledge with the rest of the club.  For example there is great interest in how to grow and shape cascades and charms.  We have skilled growers in these areas that could share their knowledge with the rest of us 

17) There is interest in forming an ECA satellite club in Mount Vernon.  A discussion ensued regarding the oversight, relationship and support of an ECA north Satellite club

1) Satellite club of Evergreen Chrysanthemum association

2) Membership dues go to ECA 

3) ECA is oversight/support

4) Follows ECA by laws and show rules

5) Receives ECA cultural instruction/supplies/support

6) Participates in ECA show at VPC

7) Participates in annual plant sale at VPC

8) Different meeting night

ECA 2019 Calendar

Meeting Dates:  All 

Thursday, January 10, 2019 7 pm – 9 pm Thursday, July 11, 2019 7 pm – 9 pm  

Thursday, February 14, 2019 7 pm – 9 pm Thursday, August 8, 2019 7 pm – 9 pm

Thursday March 14, 2019 7 pm – 9 pm Thursday, September 12, 2019 7 pm – 9 pm

Thursday, April 11, 2019 7 pm – 9 pm Thursday, October 10, 2019 7 pm – 9 pm

Thursday, May 9, 2019 7 pm – 9 pm Thursday, November 14, 2019 – Banquet

Thursday, June 13, 2019 7 pm – 9 pm Thursday, December 12, 2019 7 pm – 9 pm

 Trustees Meeting:

Saturday, January 5, 2019 10 AM – NOON

Cutting University (VPC):

Saturday, February 16, 2019   10:00 am -1 pm Confirmed with VPC

Club Plant Sales:

Thursday, March 14, 2019 7 pm – 9 pm

Thursday, April 11, 2019 7 pm – 9 pm

Public Plant Sale:

Saturday, April 13, 2019  10:00 am – 2 pm Confirmed with VPC

2019 Evergreen Chrysanthemum Show: Confirmed with VPC

Set up: Tuesday, October 29, 2019  

Wednesday, October 30, 2019  

Thursday, October 31, 2019  

Judging:  Friday, November 1, 2019     9 am – Noon  

Friends of the conservatory open house: Friday, November 1, 2019   6 pm to 8 pm

Public Show:  Friday, November 1, 2019     Noon to 4 pm  

          Saturday, November 2, 2019     10 am – 4 pm  

          Sunday, November 3, 2019       10 am – 4 pm  

Clean up:  Sunday, November 3, 2019    4 pm – 6 pm  


Thursday, November 14, 2019  6 pm Location to be determined


Cultural Committee –  

Chairperson:  Ron Elliott

Members:  Steve Joyner, Mark Ross, David Rynes

Responsible for cultural instruction, classification list, cultivar acquisition and rejuvenation, recommending project blooms, growing supplies and club history.

Membership Committee – 

Chairperson: Rich and Jill Aldrich

Members: Lizzy Whetstone, Bob Ewing

Responsible for new member recruiting, coaching, member polls and records, Arrange manpower of events and plant sales (including publicity and sales notices).

Show Committee – 

Chairperson:  Ron Elliott

Members: Ron Elliott (Trophies and Chief Steward)

     Mark Ross (Show Judges/Stewards)

Responsible for the show location, show dates, judges, stewards, staging, ribbons, trophies, awards and publicity

Social Committee:

Chairperson:  Steve Backstrom

Members: Ron Elliott – Responsible for coffee Pot and refreshments at meetings and special events

Responsible for meeting location, summer garden tour, and annual banquet.  Accounting for the number of individuals who will attend events and bring potlucks

Communications Committee:

Webmaster:  Steve Backstrom

Newsletter:  Steve Backstrom

Support Committee:

Chairperson:  Mark Ross (Yearbook)

Members:  Steve Joyner 

      Sue Joyner (prints show program)

      John Harden (Show point tabulation, Ribbons & Awards)

Responsible for publishing the year book, ordering ribbons, printing show programs, Show notices and plant sale notices.  Tabulates show points.

Welfare Committee:

Chairperson: Ann Schreibe


Responsible for oversight, when possible, for the health and welfare of the members under the weather, sending remembrances when appropriate, and advising the secretary of situations for inclusion in the monthly notices

Novice First page


The Evergreen Chrysanthemum Association (ECA) welcomes you to our Club, and hopes you will find as much enjoyment as we do in growing Chrysanthemums.  The E.C.A. was established in 1947, and patterns its classification of blooms, judging and display standards and growing standards/methodology per the National Chrysanthemum Society of England rules.  

Most of the mums grown by ECA members are of English origin, though many American Varieties are also grown.  The club typically has 200 or more different cultivars circulating among its members. From these varieties new stock is perpetuated from cuttings taken each year by our members. These varieties are seldom available at garden nurseries or in flower shops. 

 The club meets regularly on the second Thursday of each month at the Seattle Police Athletic Association Pavilion, a few blocks south of the Boeing Access road on East Marginal Way South.  See Appendix 3 (general area) and Appendix 4 (immediate area of meeting hall) for meeting directions.  

Meeting times are from 7pm to 9 pm.  The meetings reserve at least 1 hour for Cultural instruction and discussions.

The Association distributes a monthly newsletter to all members.  The newsletter consists of minutes of the previous meeting and up and coming Club Events, as well as a Chrysanthemum growing “To Do” list for the coming month.

Additional Club activities include:    

  • Club only Plant Sales – March and April meetings
  • Annual Public Plant Sale – April
  • Annual Mum show at Volunteer Park Conservatory – First weekend in November
  • Awards Banquet – November 
  • Other show possibilities including Puyallup Fair and Vancouver B.C. (Point Greys Mum Club) early show and late show.

Plants may be purchased at the club plant sales at club prices.  An experienced grower will be assigned to you as coach to whom you can turn for help during the year.  Not all varieties require the same growing treatment and growing environment.  Confer with your coach for help and advice for plant selection and growing for your location.   

Invite your coach to your house to discuss what you are doing right or wrong in growing your new plants, how to shelter your blooms in the fall, ask for vacation help while away, what blooms to enter in the fall show, and how to fill out the entry tags for the fall show.  Many friendships develop this way due to the ECA high espirit de corps and camaraderie.  Growing chrysanthemums is a fun hobby.

Show form membership information

Formed in 1947, this group of amateur chrysanthemum flower growers consists of approximately 30 members. This is our 72nd consecutive Show and one of the largest exhibitions of show quality chrysanthemums.

Membership is open to the public. Regular meetings are held on the 2nd Thursday of each month at 7:00 PM. Notice of meetings is made by news bulletins each month and at Http://  Cultural instructions are given at each meeting.

We seek, welcome, teach and instruct new members as well as making available the best English exhibition chrysanthemum plants. New members can purchase plants starts at member prices.  Dues are $15.00 for individuals and $20.00 for couples per year. Join with us and know the pride of winning a blue ribbon.

I hereby make application for membership in the


Sydney Ogilvie – Treasurer

   1937 S. Orcas St. Seattle, WA 98108







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